Part 2 : Naturist Lady And My Wife
March 2021
Here’s something I didn’t know I had and finding it while I have been cataloguing my collection of London Andrews related items is very useful.
But first I need to explain a little about my approach to this blog.
I could say so much more about London and myself, about the things she did to me as Naturist Lady. Or about what London herself as said or told me over the years. So many other tales and stories, claims and accusations….but I don’t ! I don’t have evidence to back them up. What I put on this blog are the things I can back up with facts, evidence. Understand, there is so much more I could say, but I can’t prove : So I don’t say it.
It’s like this, I’ve just misplaced a contemporary Tumblr screenshot relevant to this. I’ll have to use that later.
Anyway, I have repeatedly mention about my wife being affected by the catfishing when London used the Naturist Lady account on MeWe to spy on me, to infiltrate our life along with mine and my wife’s relationship. She used it to open the door on a world of sexual fantasy and seductively invite us in. All that comes under the heading of ‘catfishing’ these days.
I have been vague in relation to my wife because, unless I or Naturist Lady mention her in our chat messages, I had no direct evidence. Now I do. I came across a screen video of a conversation my wife was having with Naturist Lady towards the end of March 2021. This was when we believed Naturist Lady to be a woman who was having an affair with both London’s husband and London herself.
Here are the edited highlights, less personal and intimate items, from these conversations that spread over several days.
(Note : This is the conversation, but not direct word for word. I have done a bit of tidying up etc. The actually conversation is contained on the screenshots, so you can see my minor corrections.)
When this conversation had started on MeWe’s ‘chat’ PM service, Naturist Lady was not at the sanctuary at the time. They had been talking about the animals at the sanctuary, relatives and other things. Just generally chatting and feeling each other out.
My Wife – “That’s okay I have friends who have sheep and I love to go along when they are lambing, not been confident to help deliver a lamb yet. Do you have any children ? It’s funny as Andy was saying this morning that he was interested in getting married but when he met me I swept him off his feet and he wanted children with me*...that was 35 years ago !!
(*Note, this is inaccurate in that I hadn’t want to marry or have kids until I met girl who would become my wife.)
I have also worked at the same place for 30 plus years. Maybe I’m not a ‘go get it’ person ?
I would love to meet London, as I have lived with her persona for so many years. So thanks you, if we do come to the USA, we will get to meet her and you”
Naturist Lady – “Well I have frozen my eggs. We are planning to have children a bit late. We are all caught up with London and work. I work as an online broker for the stock market. Yup, may I say something ? You’re really lucky to have Andy in your life. And I really don’t regret falling in love with him. He’s a great guy though. Your lucky.”
My Wife - “ That’s good then (referring to the freezing of eggs) as I have worked with people who have put their careers first and then not been able to have children. I think they (our kids) complete us as a family. I do know I am very lucky to have Andy in my life, as he adores me. I am a selfish person I think, so I need to put my marriage as my main focus, instead of work. He is however not a saint and does drive me mad with his politics. That was what I meant, that you don’t know him. ”
We then jump….
Naturist Lady – “Haha LOL. So you saw my pics ? What did you think ? Even he (the author) got to see the unseen version of London. What do you feel about it ?
My wife responded saying, “I have seen some of the pics, but not all. Do you mean with you and your husband ?”
Naturist Lady – “Yup. Me and Kyle and London and hubby.”
My Wife – “It’s not what I feel comfortable doing. I only want Andy to make love to me. I can see that it could quite easily go wrong if you get some of the people falling out. I have no problem with others having these sessions, but not for me. I was upset when you were threatening to divorce your hubby as I thought, is sex worth ruining a marriage over ? I some think that they need the thrill.”
NL – “I know it sounds and seems weird. Even for us when we tried it, but I’m telling you. You should try it. I know you lover Andy and take this as friendly banter...you should give it a try ?”
NL - “ In discussion about making your life better we got attached (talking about herself and the author) , he really loves you a lot. And he made it clear to me, if you read that sentence or not, he loves you more than me or London.
W – “I unfortunately spent several hours reading all the messages, so I didn’t take it all in. I do feel very lucky and special to have such a wonderful man who loves me. I need to show Andy this. Does your husband love you with all his soul ?”
NL - “ Oh yes he does, and I love him a lot.”
W – “That’s lovely to know. I hope that nothing spoils that for you. Anyway I need to go now. I hope I have taken you mind off you in-laws, if only for a short time !! ?”
NL – “Thanks for doing that. And also thanks for chatting to me. I hope you believe what I am and not what you were thinking.”
W – “I do feel better now.”
NL – “Good to know, can I suggest something ? Try to read more on open relationships, it’s worth reading it. I hope we are good friends.”
Then we move on to quite a long chat…..
W – “Well, at least you have something good to look forward to. Also thank you for asking about the photos you can send, it does help me know that you are thinking about me.”
NL – “Yup, I always thought about you, but you may not be able to understand that. All what I have discussed with Andy previously was for you…..Private….”
W – “...Private….as I don’t like how I look, which is part of my problem and what got Andy connected with London in the first place. Maybe talking to you may help me. Who knows, as I tend to hide from myself. I can also understand why you don’t want him to send you anymore. X”
NL – “Nope, your thing is different. When Andy sent me pics, I told him not to. The reason was, I will get reminded of my previous romantic chats with him and I might say, I love you, to him. Which I don’t want to as I promised you (not to). And you look hot, and hey, my husband loved your pics. And take that in a nice way. He said he wished you would have made love with us.
My husband never says that except to London. You’re good, trust me.”
W - “Thank you, its taken a long time for me open up and enjoy making love. How long have you been married ? How long have you been married ? And so you compare your husband and London's husband when you are making love ?”
NL - “Never babe, never. Like I said there are norms in open relationships. Bot my husband and London's are equal to me. Equality among us makes the sex better in this relationship. And I shouldn't be ashamed to say Andy comes next to mine and London's husbands. Same with London, we both enjoy the sex we get. Can I ask you something ? I hope it doesn't bother or offend you.”
NL - “Just think before you reply and didn't get angry.”
W - “What do you want to ask me ?”
NL - “Does it really bother you that Andy says, 'I love you', to me and London ? I mean he does make love to you and saying 'I love you', to me and London doesn't decrease the love he has for you. He it clear to me before, I love my wife, then comes London and then you (NL). The point of me saying all this is putting restrictions on Andy might make him find ways to something online you might not like. And I see it in a different way. Saying I love you to me and London or a seeing mine or London's pics will make him happy and in fact make him make more love to you. I know you might get pissed again, but think. I am straightforward and honest. Just letting you know what I felt. And he can do all this under your eyes as well. Want I'm saying is just let him do what he is doing with me under your supervision and I promise you wont be disappointed. Just think about it ?”
W - “Okay....I will have a think and let you know. It will be later as I'm not in a good place at the moment ☹️.”
NL - “I understand and thanks for not getting angry on that. I just felt and told you about it. Are you alright ? Why not a good place ?”
W - “It is just my anxiety that come over me. I can wake up with it. I just have to talk myself down and rationalise things in my head. It happens a lot, but I am getting better at dealing with it. I didn't know what triggers it. I will feel better in a few hours. I know I sound like a head case and I know I cause lots of stress, but it's so hard. “
NL - “Didn't drink coffee, anxiety comes with it. Also walk around the house with Andy holding hands. I'm a psychologist as well. I can help you with that. You didn't cause Andy anything. Most of our previous chats have been like...sex and love with you was awesome, then I love you Sara and then comes London LOL. Never think like that, Andy loves you babe. If anyone loved me like that I would say fuck off anxiety LOL”
Then on March 25…..
NL - “Hello ********”
W - “Hi Sara, just been driving to work to drop some info off. (Also re-explain NL, Sara and use of London etc) Didn't think that there is anything that you can say to make me feel better today !”
NL - “Oh why, are you okay ?”
W - “Feel very emotional as you know. I was re-reading the text (MeWe chats) on Andy's phone. I can't just get over it and forget it. I can't chat now as I'm going to see a friend for a coffee.”
NL - “Okay, do chat if you want to ?”
And lastly a chat on the 26th of March 2021….
NL - “Hello ********”
W - “Hi Sara”
NL - “How are you today ?”
W - “Feeling better. I'm too emotional always have been. Talking with Andy though, I feel better about how men think about sex etc. Still not happy with what Andy was doing and will be going back on what I will accept he can do. Sorry if that is not what you want me to say.”
NL - “It'd alright, you are very conservative, I can understand. You're not that open. Well that'd okay. At least I can chat with you two both as a friend.”
W - Yes, it is sometimes to to chat to somebody who doesn't know me in my normal life. I can tell you things that I couldn't tell my friends !! I am interested in your open relationship, but only like I would be if I was watching it on TV. It intrigues me how people interact. As it must be more than just sex.
NL - I understand honey, you can ask me anything you like about it. Anything about London, Kyle or hubby. You can ask me anything.
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NL - You can share anything you want
W - I can (think she meant can't) get my head round how you can watch your hubby with someone else.
NL - Well it seems weird at first, but remember it'd far more than swinger activity. You didn't know anything about it. It'd not just we have sex with different partners, but it'd altogether. In short an orgy. More than that there love and honestly involved between us.
W - I know a lot about London from Andy being obsessed with her for years. I can understand how she is so liberal, you would need to being in that industry. That is not me being judgemental. How did Kyle feel when she told him he could go and see who you (he) liked when they were apart.
W -I feel like I'm a snooper, sorry. Sad face emoji
NL - I did not understand the question about Kyle. Well let me tell you, what you have heard over the years from Andy is quite different. Even Andy was surprised to hear a lot of the stuff.
W - I can imagine as London is a made up persona that she can make up things as well.
NL - Yup and it'd a lot of a difference and I mean a lot.
W - I meant when she first got together with Kyle they were apart a lot and she told him to go and see other women....(This is eluding to the open relationship she allowed to see other women when they were apart. But London oddly don't see others...or so she said at that time prior to moving to Washington State.)
W - What does London's mum think of what she does, as I believe she threw here out when she first started ? Does she think that now she'd got the sanctuary its acceptable ?
NL - Well London's mom doesn't know about the open relationship. And our open relationship is totally confidential except for And. And Kyle is ready to be with us. We were hesitant at first but decided to give it a try.
W - Well if you enjoy it and it fits in with your life go for it. As I've said, it'd not for me. I might about London's mum, how does she feel about her earning her living in the sex industry.
NL - Well now it's London's life. She doesn't car what anyone thinks, after all it's her mom. She's gotta accept her.
W - That'd how it should be XX and smily face
NL - Yup
W - You just want your children to be happy. It'd just that her mum was so curl to her when she started off XX. I need to go now as Andy wants some help as we are having a clear out of our garage.
NL - Yup, I think London will tell her mom soon about us as well, fingers crossed. Same here, going to London's now. Take care.
W - Well I suppose if she is not bothered...it will be interesting to see how she reacts ? Have a good trip.
NL - Thank You, TTYL (talk to you later).
So, what is important about all this ?
First, it illustrates the depth of the deceit and gives a glimpse of the hurt and destabilising impact that came from this. The emotional turmoil that this ‘catfishing’ caused.
Second, several times in these chats, Naturist Lady and my wife confirm that Naturist Lady has sent “unseen” photos of London. I have to emphasise this. I was being sent intimate photos of London Andrews. These would never be seen again partly because they were sent as self-deleting, ‘disappearing messages’ on MeWe. But some of these I would later see as still photos taken from London’s pay to view, PPV OnlyFans videos on London's OF account. But this begs the question, how did the sender know which PPV videos I had not purchased and thus were safe to use ?
So this gives an insight into why I, we, believed what we were being told by Naturist Lady. It should be noted that through out this, my wife had access to all my social media, she still does. I don’t hide anything. Remember London and her life has been a topic of conversation between us since 2015. Then understand that London, Naturist Lady, ‘Sara’, a lot of the trolls etc are creations of the same girl. (See other earlier sections of this blog for copious evidence that shows this.)
In the coming weeks I will start to show (yes with screenshots as proof) how I began to get suspicious of Naturist Lady and to question her and the events she described on the MeWe app. And then London's reaction to this questioning and doubt on other social media platforms.
Lastly, yes I am aware that the syntax of some of the conversations we were having appear to be Spanish. After decades of holidaying in Spain I speak a little Spanish. I also know that London speaks better Spanish than I do and just as an aside her husband speaks excellent Spanish.
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